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“Nexus Select Trust

Q3 FY 2025 Earnings Conference Call”

February 04, 2025

Dalip Sehgal – Executive Director & Chief Executive Officer

Pratik Dantara – Head, Investor Relations and Strategy

Rajesh Deo – Chief Financial Officer (CFO)

Nirzar Jain – Chief Leasing Officer (CLO)

Jayen Naik – Chief Operating Officer (COO)

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Moderator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Earnings Conference Call

of Nexus Select Trust for Q3 FY25.

As a reminder, all participant lines will be in listen-only mode and there will

be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.

Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an

operator by pressing star, then zero on your touchtone phone.

I now hand the conference over to Mr.

Pratik Dantara, Head - Investor

Relations and Strategy from Nexus Select Trust.

Thank you and over to you,

Pratik Dantara

Good evening, everyone and thank you for joining the Earnings

Conference Call of Nexus Select Trust for the quarter ended December 2024.

Before we proceed further, I would like to highlight that the management may

make certain statements that may constitute forward-looking statements.

Please be advised that our actual results may differ materially from these

Nexus Select Trust does not guarantee these statements or results and is not

obliged to update them at any point of time.

Specifically, any financial

guidance and pro forma information that we will provide on this call are

management estimates based on certain assumptions and have not been

subjected to any audit review examination procedures.

You are cautioned not

to place undue reliance on such information and there can be no assurance that

we will be able to achieve the same.

Joining me today on the call are Dalip Sehgal – Executive Director and CEO,

our CFO – Rajesh Deo, our COO – Jayen Naik and our Chief Leasing Officer

We will start off with a brief remarks on our Business and Financial

Performance and then open the floor for questions.

Over to you, Dalip.

Dalip Sehgal

Thank you, Pratik.

Good evening, everyone.

It is my pleasure to welcome you

to the Earnings Conference call for the 3rd quarter of FY25 for Nexus Select

Trust, India's First Listed Retail REIT.

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Before we delve into our quarterly performance, I wanted to touch upon two

important points.

The first One – The finance minister in her recent Budget speech, has proposed

substantial tax relief measures, particularly exempting the income upto INR 12

lakh which we believe is a welcome move for the consumers and retail

The government expects to provide additional INR 1 lakh crore in the

hands of the consumers through these measures, providing a notable boost to

disposable incomes in the hands of the middle-income consumers, encouraging

discretionary spending, influencing consumption trends and promoting overall

economic growth.

The second one is on our performance over the last nine months which has

remained resilient despite a challenging backdrop in consumption growth, I am

sure most of you have seen the growth reported by other retail and consumer

Now coming to our Q3 FY25 performance.

We witnessed strong financial performance in Q3 FY25 with net operating

income growth of 6% year-on-year in an environment wherein consumption

growth witnessed some green shoots after a soft first half.

While these are early

signs, we remain optimistic about improvement in consumption with the

impetus provided by the government in the Union Budget.

On the back of this performance, we are delighted to announce our sixth

distribution of INR 3,327 million translating to INR 2.196 per unit, up 10%

With this distribution, we have cumulatively distributed ~INR

20.3 billion / INR 13.425 per unit and delivered total return of above 50% to

our unitholders since listing.

In the current financial year, we have declared distribution of INR 6.35 per

For FY25, we expect the full year organic distribution to be approximately

INR 8.4 per unit.

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Now coming to our operational performance.

During the quarter, we witnessed consumption of INR 35 billion, which grew

6% year-on-year.

We have observed quarter-on-quarter improvement in

consumption and expect that this momentum will continue in the coming

Our Q3 FY25 consumption growth is approximately 2.3x of the

growth we reported for first half of the year.

Let me now share some category wise consumption trends with you that we

are witnessing across our malls.

Categories like Jewellery, watches, beauty and personal care and family

entertainment centers witnessed strong growth in the quarter and continue

We have been allocating additional space to these categories

and will continue to do so going ahead.

We have in the past indicated that we would focus on increasing the

contribution of F&B within our portfolio.

I am happy to report that in line

with this objective, we have revamped Nexus Elante and Nexus

Koramangala food court and enhanced brand offering which has resulted

in increasing rentals by 2x in both the food courts.

Fashion category also witnessed rebound in their sales this quarter with the

onset of festive and wedding season.

Finally, as most of you know, cinemas have come back strongly in this

quarter with blockbuster releases.

Let me now walk you through our leasing and marketing performance

Leasing Performance: With strong demand from tenants, our leasing

occupancy now stands at 97.6%.

We have re-leased 0.31 million square feet at

healthy spreads on the back of robust demand from tenants for quality Grade

A retail spaces.

This is also reflected in our YTD results wherein the releasing

spreads have been upwards of 20%.

Our lease expiry over the next three years

is around 1 million square feet annually which cumulatively represents around

40% of our total rentals on which we are confident of achieving 20%+ spreads.

We will also continue to proactively churn and resize underperforming

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The demand from international brands continues to be strong and we witnessed

brands like Foot Locker, YSL Beaute, NARS, Nespresso, Apple, Massimo

Dutti, Tim Hortons, Dyson, etc. who have opened their first store in our malls

doing extremely well.

Marketing performance: We continue to invest in the technology and

customer experiences in our malls to drive footfalls and sales growth.

Nexus One App continues to be amongst one of the best shopping mall app in

India with lifetime sales now clocking more than INR 1,000 crores.

received very good traction on the app with 0.5 million consumer base who

have contributed approximately 10% of consumption in these malls during

Our repeat rate is more than 30% which is amongst the best in the

In this quarter, our marketing team has curated and implemented around 17

experiential events like The Toy Factory, The Clown Town, The Jungle Tales,

Winter Wonderland, The Polar Explorer, across our malls.

registrations for these events in excess of 1.2 lakhs which has helped augment

footfalls in our malls.

Our size and scale also allow us to plan for pan India promotions.

quarter, we published more than 300 print ads and launched multiple digital

campaigns reaching half a billion eyeballs.

In previous quarter, we installed India’s first twin stacked anamorphic cuboid

screen in Nexus Hyderabad.

I am pleased to tell you that we have installed two

more anamorphic screens during this quarter in our malls with one in Nexus

Seawoods, Navi Mumbai and other one in Nexus Vijaya, Chennai.

coming months, we are planning to install four to five anamorphic screens

across our other malls further solidifying our position as industry leaders in

mall experiences.

This initiative leverages an asset light model and given the

technology risks; we kept our investments minimal.

These screens have revolutionized in-mall advertising and as we speak today,

more than 15 brands have tied up with us for advertising.

These have also

opened a new income stream for us.

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Now coming to the Balance Sheet: On debt, I am delighted to tell you that we

have reduced our debt cost by 30 bps year-on-year, with annualized savings of

INR 120 million.

On the cost front, we're continuously rationalizing our

operating costs.

At the like-for-like level, the operating costs has increased just

by approximately 3% year-on-year, and that's a testimony of the controls which

we are trying to maintain at the cost level.

On our rental collections, I am pleased to report that we have been able to

reduce these timelines for collection from 12 days from the billing date at

listing to 5 days which is the lowest in our history.

ESG: On sustainability, we continue to lead the market with our ESG goals.

Across our portfolio, approximately 43% of the energy requirement is met by

renewable sources during nine months of this year (up by 1300 basis points

We are also proud to announce that we have been recognized as a ‘Great Place

to Work’ for the fifth consecutive year which further solidifies our position as

a modern leader, delivering outstanding value to all stakeholders.

Now let me share some updates on the proposed acquisitions

Vega City mall acquisition was delayed due to certain administrative

issues which are now being resolved.

We are focused on getting the

transaction to close soon and will keep you posted.

On the North India acquisition, we are in the last phase of documentation

and expect the transaction to close soon.

Lastly, summarizing our performance,

We witnessed green shoots in consumption growth in this quarter

compared to the first half.

Coupled with the proposed amendments in the

union budget, we expect the consumption growth momentum to pick up.

Leasing demand for our assets continues to remain robust with favorable

demand supply dynamics.

We have over the last 9 months seen new brands

entering into our malls which has helped premiumise our portfolio.

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Our YoY NOI growth was 6% in Q3 FY25 with steady operating

We have announced our sixth distribution of INR 2.196 per unit, up by

10% year-on-year.

With this our cumulative distribution since listing is

INR 13.425 per unit and the total return to unitholders is above 50%.

We are expecting to close the acquisition of Vega City mall soon and have

a strong acquisition pipeline.

With this, let’s now move on to the Q&A.

Questions and answers

Moderator

Thank you very much.

We will now begin the question-and-answer session.

Our first question is from the line of Murtuza Arsiwalla from Kotak Securities.

Murtuza Arsiwalla

October was a little more favourable month, as i understand, from

Can you give us a monthly break-up of how the consumption

trends were for October, November, December?

And if possible, how January

Dalip Sehgal

As far as the quarter is concerned, quarter 3 is typically the festival quarter.

Honestly, a month-wise breakdown won’t be very meaningful, as the timing of

Diwali and Dussehra varied significantly between last year and this year,

falling in two different months.

I will look at combined consumption

performance of October and November. and then will look at December.

So, if you look at October and November together consumption growth was

around 6 percent and growth in December was also similar to October and

Murtuza Arsiwalla

Any sense we can get on how consumption is trending in January?

Dalip Sehgal

January was in-line with what we have witnessed in Q3 FY25.

It’s too early to

comment upon growth forecast for Q4 FY25, given the recent budget

Overall consumer sentiment may shift by the time people start

seeing the generation of additional cash surplus.

The inflow of money, along

with the recent budget announcement, could influence the overall sentiments.

It’s still too early to comment upon.

I'm not in the favour of looking at a

monthly kind of growth.

I think it's always better to look at a quarterly growth

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in a country like India, which is so vast, where festivals happen in different

areas and months.

Murtuza Arsiwalla

Thank you so much.

Moderator

The next question is from the line of Parvez Qazi from Nuvama

Parvez Qazi

Hi, good afternoon.

Thanks for taking my question and congratulations on a

good set of numbers.

So wanted to get some update about the proposed

acquisitions in Hyderabad.

So, what is happening there?

Pratik Dantara

On the proposed Hyderabad acquisition, we very recently received comments

from the State government on the draft documents that we had submitted to

At this point of time, our legal and commercial team are looking into

those comments and we'll be able to share an update on the same once we've

gone through those comments.

Parvez Qazi

Thanks, and all the best.

Moderator

The next question is from the line of Pritesh Sheth from Axis Capital.

Pritesh Sheth

Hi, thanks and just a couple of questions.

So, first on consumption, not trying

to compare but just wanted to understand the difference.

One of our peers

reported 10% like for like growth, ours was 6%.

Anything different in terms of

how the mix of tenant is in our portfolio versus peers?

And second question is on consumption growth versus NOI growth.

we have been a tad higher.

Obviously, I don't want to look at it on every quarter

basis but this time it was in line, consumption growth and NOI growth.

what's the difference versus our past couple of quarters performance on that

front versus this quarter?

Dalip Sehgal

Okay, let me answer, the first one that is on consumption growth.

carefully our peers has few new malls which were started operations in last two

So for a like for like consumption growth you have to exclude these

As per our understanding, the like for like consumption growth for our

peers will be between 6% and 7% which is in-line with our consumption

growth for the quarter.

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The key stabilized cities where both of us are present are Bangalore, Pune,

Mumbai and Chennai.

In Bangalore and Chennai, our consumption growth was

twice of their growth in Q3 FY25.

In Mumbai, consumption for both of us grew

at same pace in Q3 FY25 including additional area that our peer has opened

In Pune, they have witnessed a surge in consumption growth of early

double digit while we witnessed a flat growth in Q3 FY25 owing to impact of

recently opened mall near our micro-market.

So that's really a healthy competition.

I think on a like for like basis we have

done better than our peers in consumption growth both in the quarter as well

as nine months ended December 2024.

I don't want to get into too much of detail, but the fact is that I think the like

for like growth in cities where both of us have malls for some period of time, I

think we may be a shade better.

I feel that the good news is that overall

consumption for both of us has grown at 6% plus like for like.

case, it may be a little bit better.

I do believe that it's the sustainability of whatever growth has happened in

quarter three which is going to be key as we go forward.

The pillar that will

keep this growth momentum continue will be the INR 1 lakh crores of impetus

that is coming into the hands of the consumer post the recent budget

Coming to part two of your question which was on NOI and Consumption

This quarter both grew at 6%.

Earlier, the NOI growth used to be tad

higher than consumption growth owing to incremental revenue share flowing

If you look at the growth for nine months ended December 2024, the

NOI growth is higher than consumption growth in the same period.

stated that in the past as well that if the consumption growth is a little lower,

we will tend to have lower revenue share flowing to NOI.

It doesn't make too much of a difference but can make half a percent difference

and that, in a sense, got covered in the earlier quarters.

So, like for like, I think

we've been trending at around 6% growth from quarter one onwards.

Obviously, the consumption growth of 6% will mean an improved revenue

share as we go forward.

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Pritesh Sheth

That's pretty helpful, and thanks for the very detailed answer on the first

That's it from my side and all the best.

Moderator

The next question is from the line of Mohit Agrawal from IIFL

Mohit Agrawal

Thanks for the opportunity.

My first question is if you could, for the third

quarter, what has been the footfall growth?

Dalip Sehgal

Footfall growth was around 1% in the quarter.

Mohit Agrawal

My second question is on, you've highlighted the marketing initiatives

that you are taking in your portfolio, and I see some of them are ticketed.

mentioned some revenues as well.

So, is the objective to increase footfalls and

thereby consumption growth, or do you plan to separately monetize these

events in a meaningful way?

And if yes, what can we expect as a share of the

non-rental marketing events as a percentage of your total NOI or revenues?

you could give some color around that.

Dalip Sehgal

So, without getting into too many details, because this is just started.

the whole attempt is to bring in better quality footfalls and more footfalls.

any event that you do, there's a cost to it.

So, let's assume last year we were

doing events at about INR 100 per event.

This year we are saying we will spend

more, we will have better engagement, and we will spend INR 150.

that INR 50 come from?

Part of it will come from ticketing and believe me,

some of these experiences are so different that both kids and parents are more

than willing to do it.

How large will all of this become?

We'll have to see as

I think it's still early days.

But the fact is that there are 3-4 streams

of non-rental marketing income.

There is space on hire where we provide space

to brands for advertisements both within the mall and on the facade of the mall.

So that is an income stream.

Some of these ticketed events will become larger income streams going

But in my view, large part of this business, maybe about 90% plus,

will still be lease rentals.

But the balance 10%, we would obviously attempt to

grow as we go forward.

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Mohit Agrawal

And my last question is on your acquisition strategy.

the Vega City and the Hyderabad and the other North asset, how is the pipeline

currently looking like?

And just trying to get an update that we had a target of

adding about 2 to 3 malls every year.

So how do you see the pipeline shaping

up in terms of availability of assets and the valuations?

If you could update on

Pratik Dantara

The pipeline is looking pretty strong at the moment.

We need to close what's

on hand at the moment with us.

So, focus is on that.

At the same time, there

are about 3 or 4 more assets that we are engaging with and hopefully that

should kind of consummate the pipeline for the next year.

So, I think pretty

much on track, a little delayed to start off with.

But once that starts, I think the

flow should be more linear.

Mohit Agrawal

So, the 2, 3 malls that you are looking at beyond this would be hopefully closed

in FY26, right?

Okay, understood.

Those were my questions.

Moderator

The next question is from the line of Arya Mehta from Maximal

Arya Mehta

Yes, good evening, sir.

So, on the pipeline question, so apart from these three

malls totalling 1.3 million square feet, I mean, are there any confirmed

entrances to this pipeline?

Because this has been this way for the past few

quarters, I guess.

So, are there other possible acquisitions that have gone into

the slightly more advanced stage that you can throw some color on?

Pratik Dantara

These announced acquisitions in the sense Vega City, the Hyderabad malls and

the North India acquisitions are in total of about 1.8 million square feet.

from that, like I spoke about earlier, there are a few more acquisitions that are

in the pipeline.

I wouldn't be able to give out too many details at this point of

time because these are bilateral conversations.

So, at this point of time, let's

just keep it at 1.8 million that we've announced.

We are looking to kind of

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Dalip Sehgal

And that meets the target that we have set for ourselves, which is within 4-5

year period, to double the portfolio.

Arya Mehta

So, you seem well on track on doing that.

So, there are no changes to

Dalip Sehgal

Yes on track though it can be lumpy at times.

Some of these delays are very,

very unexpected and unfortunate, but I guess at a state level, these things can

But sufficed to say that we are on top of it.

Arya Mehta

There's a little bit of slowdown that we have seen in the consumption.

of a little bit of positive for us to sort of go and talk to the potential sellers?

they more willing now because of this?

Pratik Dantara

In a sense, somewhere it does matter.

But ultimately, from our

standpoint, it's more about long-term, whether we see that asset that can be turn

around, what value-add can we do from that asset.

From a seller's standpoint,

I think, frankly, it all boils down to what valuations we offer them.

So, while there may be temporary blips and people understand consumption

slowdown, maybe a good time to start conversation, but some of these

narratives change pretty quickly.

So, it's not necessarily the only point on their

Arya Mehta

On the nine-month numbers, the NOI growth has been 6% for the entire nine

So then, how should we model this thing?

Because, say, for nine-month, we

have got 6%, but then the DPU growth is tracking only 4%, adjusted for the

10.5 months for last year and in this quarter, again, we have done 6%, but we

have got 10% DPU growth.

So how do we sort of model the NOI growth versus

the DPU growth?

Because these two numbers are not sort of matching.

Pratik Dantara

So, I would suggest you just look at the nine-month number.

That's probably,

directionally, where it should be.

Obviously, within a quarter, it could be a little

But I think, directionally, NOI growth and DPU growth should kind

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Dalip Sehgal

And at INR 8.4 per unit, which is what we think we'll end up, is around a 5-

6% growth over last year, annualized, which is in line with the NOI growth.

Pratik Dantara

And just the whole piece around NOI growth, you need to kind of also factor

in that we kind of, at this point of time, have some bit of negative carry on the

funds that we've raised for Vega City acquisition.

So, the deal should get done

very, very soon now.

But it's just that that fund is having a negative carry today.

Arya Mehta

And I think part of it has also increased to 75% odd, I think last quarter, it was

72%, if I'm not wrong.

So, I mean, going forward, should this be the new

normal or how should we sort of model that in?

Dalip Sehgal

Around 74%-75% of NOI margin

Arya Mehta

Understood, thank you and all the best.

Moderator

The next question is from the line of Biplab Debbarma from

Antique Stock Broking.

Biplab Debbarma

Good evening, everyone.

So, my first question is, looking at all the narrative

and macro scenario so far, how do you see this 5%-6% consumption growth

So, should we see this as a good consumption growth looking at

the current scenario?

Is it good, bad, or ugly?

How do I see the consumption?

Dalip Sehgal

So, I think you have to put it in perspective of what has happened in the first

half of the year where I said that the growth was less than 3%, we're now at

If you take a period of 5 years pre-COVID and see the average

consumption growth, it's around 7-8%.

So, if you see what the long-term trend

is, it's around 7-8% depending year-on-year what the inflation rates, interest

rates etc. have been.

Was there an issue in terms of consumption?

I think that's clearly there and the

fact that, the government and the finance minister recognized it.

day that, government will put impetus of INR 1 lakh crores in the hands of

So, to answer your question, is 6% good, bad, ugly?

depends entirely on what is the context.

I think once the money starts flowing

into the hands of the consumers, then we'll have to see, is 6% good enough?

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Should it be better, etc.? and how long will it take for that to actually fructify

in terms of improved consumption.

Biplab Debbarma

So, something like 8%-9%, say, next few quarters, you report 8%, 9%

or 10%, or something like that, more than 7%.

Then we should consider that

as a good consumption growth.

Dalip Sehgal

Now, 9% or 10%, has never happened in the past, except post-COVID, when

obviously 2 years there was nothing.

So, I'm saying the long-term trend is 7%-

We're currently at 6%. and I would not speculate, but I presume that if

all this money comes into circulation, we should see an improvement.

I think time will tell.

But I would not hazard a guess to say,

will it be 10% or 12%?

That we don't know.

Biplab Debbarma

Okay, fair enough.

So just one more question.

Regarding Hyderabad Mall, I

believe you mentioned some comments from government.

How is government

involved in that acquisition of Hyderabad Mall?

Pratik Dantara

The malls are next to the metro that the government and seller have kind of

jointly developed.

Biplab Debbarma

So, government has some stake into the mall.

Pratik Dantara

No, they have given the mall space on lease to the seller.

They have to give an

NOC for transfer of the lease.

Moderator

The next question is from the line of Jatin from Bank of America.

Thanks for the opportunity.

Most of my questions have been answered.

just a quick one.

Would you be able to break down the nine months NOI growth

into the usual components, rental escalations, MTM, and revenue share?

So, like Dalip Sir mentioned, around 4%-4.5% comes from rental escalation.

This year in particular, there was 8 lakhs square feet which was supposed to

We have made a re-leasing spread of 20% on around 0.7 million square

So that's around 1% -1.5%.

So that's 5% - 6% and the revenue share is

This was the NOI break-up for the nine months

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That's very helpful.

Thank you so much.

Moderator

Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today.

hand the conference over to Mr.

Pratik Dantara for closing comments.

Pratik Dantara

Thank you everyone for joining the call.

If you have any further questions, do

reach out to us and the IR team.

Moderator

On behalf of Nexus Select Trust, that concludes this conference.

for joining us.

And you may now disconnect your lines.

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