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“Capital Infra Trust
Q1 FY26 Earnings Conference Call”
August 08, 2025
MANAGEMENT: MR.
MANISH SATNALIWALA – CHIEF EXECUTIVE
OFFICER – CAPITAL INFRA TRUST
AMIT KUMAR – CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER –
CAPITAL INFRA TRUST
Moderator
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Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to Capital Infra Trust Q1 FY26 Earnings
Conference Call.
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there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.
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I now hand the conference over to Mr.
Thank you and over to you, sir.
Good afternoon.
On behalf of ICICI Securities, I welcome you all to the Q1
FY26 earnings conference call of Capital Infra Trust.
Today, we have with us from the
management, Mr.
Manish Satnaliwala, CEO, and Mr.
Amit Kumar, CFO.
We'll start the
call with brief opening remarks which will be followed by Q&A.
Over to you, sir.
Manish Satnaliwala
Thank you, Mohit.
Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us on the Q1
FY26 earnings conference call of Capital Infra Trust.
It's a festive time for next one week
and I take a moment to wish you all a very Happy Rakshabandhan and Happy
Independence Day in advance.
We have had a steady and encouraging start to FY26 in Q1.
Our operational assets
continue to deliver consistent annuity cash flows across the portfolio.
manage approximately 683 kilometers of annuity roads with an average residual life of
11.3 years, providing visibility on cash flows.
Our vision statement is clear to deliver consistent and superior yields for our investors
by combining expert asset management with innovative structuring, prioritizing
transparency, disciplined risk management, and long-term value creation.
encapsulated in our vision 3G framework; growth, governance, goal, guiding our
roadmap to $5 billion AUM by 2030.
Our distribution for Q1 FY26 stands at 3.61 per unit, comprising of Rs. 2.61 per unit as
interim distribution and Rs. 1 per unit declared this month.
This keeps us well on track
to meet our FY26 distribution guidance of Rs. 14.61 per unit, translating to a 14.75%
yield on issue price.
Since inception, we have returned Rs. 26.50 per unit to our unit
holders, excluding the recent distribution declared.
In terms of industry and regulatory updates, we are encouraged by the renewed
momentum in India's infrastructure sector.
The NHAI is set to build up 124 highway and
expressway projects in FY26, covering approximately 6,376 km, surpassing the peak
of FY23 with an estimated outlay of Rs. 3.45 lakh crores.
Notably, 80 of these projects are under HAM, which aligns closely with our core
investment strategy.
This renewed activity is further supported by the National
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Infrastructure Pipeline (NIP) and PM GatiShakti Yojana, which continue to anchor
large-scale capital deployment across roads, ports, logistics, with annual infrastructure
capex targets exceeding Rs. 10 -11 lakh crores or 3-3.4% of GDP.
In addition, the monetary policy during the quarter had a bank rate cut by 75 basis
points, with a neutral stance.
The RBI had maintained a similar stance in its MPC
meeting held a couple of days before.
While lower bank rates may reduce interest
income for InvITs, the impact is meaningfully offset by the benefit of reduced debt
servicing costs, ultimately enhancing cash flow efficiency and supporting accretive
In terms of SEBI updated inventory regulations, it brings meaningful enhancements to
support stable returns and prudent risk management.
At least 80% of the assets must
be invested in completed and revenue-generating assets, reinforcing long-term cash
flow stability.
The new framework also permits InvITs to deploy surplus cash in selected
liquid funds, improving short-term liquidity while maintaining a low-risk profile.
Additionally, InvITs can now hedge interest rate exposures to derivatives such as
swaps, futures and FRAs, an important tool to manage financing and floating rate debt
risk in a dynamic rate environment.
In terms of key operational highlights, six projects
have fully completed and have received their COD, and the remaining three projects
which were under construction have applied for the completion certificate during the
All nine assets have maintained satisfactory conditions, reflecting commitment to our
road quality standards.
Routine maintenance was consistently implemented across
Driving quality remained stable and satisfactory throughout, highlighting our
commitment to operational excellence and long-term asset value.
In terms of growth, which is the main part, I am pleased to say that we have received a
ROFO notice from sponsors and our board has authorized to start due diligence and
evaluation for adding three new assets from the sponsor to our portfolio in FY26.
three assets are JRR Highways Private Limited, which is located in the state of
Rajasthan, the second is Hasanpur Bhaktiyarpur Highway Private Limited located in
Bihar, and the third is Korba Highway Private Limited located in Chhattisgarh.
All three assets are fully operational, backed by NHAI annuity payments, and will be
acquired with 100% InvIT ownership.
Together, they are expected to add Rs. 2,500-
3,000 crores to our AUM.
We remain focused on scaling prudently, targeting high-
quality operational HAM assets, while maintaining a prudent 80-20 mix between HAM
and BOT total exposure.
In closing, our strategy remains anchored in asset quality, predictable cash flows, and
disciplined growth.
We have provided a DPU guidance of Rs. 14.6 per unit and are
confident of achieving it.
With a robust pipeline, we are targeting over Rs. 2,500 crores
of AUM addition in FY26 compared to the current AUM of Rs. 4,185 crores, representing
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a growth of around 60% and remain focused on our long-term vision of reaching $5
billion in AUM by 2030.
We are optimistic about the road sector and committed to delivering sustained value to
our stakeholders.
Thank you, and now I would like to hand over to Mr.
Amit Kumar, our
Amit Kumar
Thank you, Manish.
Good afternoon, everyone.
I will take you through the key quarterly
financials update for the Trust.
Starting with the AUM, we have concluded Q1 FY26 with a strong AUM of Rs. 4,185
Post-listing, we had issued NCDs totaling to Rs. 2,363 crores at a competitive
cost of debt of approx. 7.68% per annum, which are payable half-yearly.
change in the total debt since then.
Trust continued to be rated AAA by two rating
agencies, that is CRISIL and Care, for the entire debt.
We are on slide 17.
For the period under consideration, the total distribution per unit for
the quarter works out to Rs. 3.61 per unit, out of which Rs. 2.61 per unit was distributed
as interim distribution in June 2025 itself, and remaining Rs. 1 per unit will be distributed
The proposed Rs. 1 distribution will be in the form of repayment of debt and will
be tax-free in the hands of investors.
We are on slide 16.
On a consolidated basis, total income works out to Rs. 206 crores,
with net loss of Rs. 73 crores as compared to total income of Rs. 159 crores and loss
of Rs. 37 crores in last quarter.
Since trust got listed in the month of January 2025, only
comparatives for Q1 FY25 are not available.
The net loss booked in the current quarter is mainly due to modification loss booked on
financial assets, primarily due to change in the bank rate by RBI by almost 75 bps since
the starting of this current quarter.
Talking about the profit and loss on the standalone basis, the trust recorded a total
income of Rs. 298 crores, consisting of dividend from subsidiaries of Rs. 194 crores
and trust income on loans extended by trust to SPVs of Rs. 100 crores and other
treasury income of Rs. 66 lakhs.
EBITDA for the said period works out to Rs. 297 crores.
During the said quarter, an impairment in the value of investment is booked, which
amounted to Rs. 330 crores.
The main constituents for the same were interim
distributions to unit holders in June 2025, change in the bank rates and approval
pending for certain GST change in law from NHAI.
Since distributions from these SPVs
to the trust are tax-free in the hands of trust, the tax outflow on the standalone level is
only on the other income earned by trust.
Thank you all for your attention.
All other information is available in our presentation.
We can now open the floor for any questions you may have.
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Questions and answers
Moderator
Thank you very much.
We will now begin the question and answer session.
question is from the line of Jainam Jain from ICICI Securities.
Please go ahead.
Jainam Jain
Thank you for the opportunity.
Sir, can you help us understand the loss on modification
of financial assets worth Rs. 180 crores which we have booked in this quarter?
Amit Kumar
So, as per Ind AS, there is a booking of financial assets.
Based on the estimates, we
have it from the NHAI on the HAM projects.
So, whenever there is a change in the
estimates, we have to book the modification gain or loss.
Since there is a change in the
bank rate, as I have already mentioned, there are 75 bps starting from this quarter.
So, that actually made this entry to happen in the books.
This is though a notional entry,
but it actually depicts the overall cash flows expected from the NHAI in the coming
Jainam Jain
So, are there any specific assets which we are looking to acquire in
Manish Satnaliwala
Can you repeat the question?
Jainam Jain
Are there any specific assets which we are looking to acquire in FY26?
Manish Satnaliwala
So, as I told in my speech, we have received a ROFO notice from the sponsor.
So, there are three assets that we are going to acquire, and we are starting the due
diligence and evaluation of that.
Those assets are located in Chhattisgarh, Bihar, and
Jainam Jain
That answers my question.
Thank you so much and all the best.
Moderator
The next question is from the line of Sonia Keswani from Coheron Wealth.
Please go ahead.
Sonia Keswani
Thanks for the opportunity.
Sir, when I heard your opening remarks, you were
talking about adding close to Rs. 2,500 crores in the AUM.
Can you share a similar
target for FY27?
Manish Satnaliwala
So, Sonia, I think we are looking at adding the similar kind of numbers in FY27 also.
So, we are looking at adding three to four assets this year.
Three are going to add by
And next year also, we will have a similar kind of target of adding around
AUM can be around Rs. 3,000 crores, but similar four assets will be there.
And that is only from the sponsor piece at this point of time.
But in case we get a value-
accretive deal from outside the market, we can look at that also.
But four is definitely, I
think, we should be looking at FY27.
Sonia Keswani
And can you help me understand the competitive landscape for third-party HAM
asset biddings?
And what are the strategies that you are adopting to secure these
assets that are attractive in IRRs?
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Manish Satnaliwala
So, it's all market-driven, Sonia.
They are assets in the market, HAM assets.
is a very scattered kind of an asset with multiple players.
So, we are looking at the right
kind of asset with our investment strategy and value-accretive.
But in terms of the IRR,
it will be value-accretive to the stakeholders.
As and when we get into that kind of a
discussion, we will definitely update the unit holders on that.
Sonia Keswani
And so, my last question would be around EBITDA.
You have posted an
EBITDA loss for this quarter.
So, can you share any guidance for FY26?
an EBITDA positive figure for the full year?
Amit Kumar
Sonia, thank you.
But the EBITDA, excluding the extraordinary loss, which I was
explaining about the notional loss, which we have to book due to the change in the
estimates, excluding that, we were already EBITDA positive.
And we are expecting, as
per the market, there is expectation of further dip of 25 bps in the interest rates, in the
Apart from that, if nothing, go beyond changing the estimates for the revenues and
Expenses are mostly fixed for a trust.
So, we expect this figure to become
positive by end of FY26.
Sonia Keswani
That were my questions.
Thank you very much.
Moderator
The next question is on the line of Nidhi from ICICI Securities.
Thank you so much for taking my question.
Your debt to AUM has crossed the 49%
Is this a breach as per the InvIT regulations?
If so, what steps will be taken to
Manish Satnaliwala
So, under the InvIT regulation, you should be within 49%.
breach is mainly on account of the change in the bank rates, which is the market
So, we have already committed to the trustee and we have six months’
timeline to rectify this.
So, as we are going to add three new assets in this Q3 FY26 we will be going to resize
our debt accordingly so that our AUM debt comes basically within the 49% limit.
a temporary breach.
It's not a permanent breach.
Are you looking to acquire any assets from third party other than your sponsor?
So, that is always a part of our strategy.
One is a sponsor ROFO pipeline, which
is already very strong.
But beyond that, we are also looking for third-party assets.
and when we get a lucrative deal or something which is value-accretive, we will
definitely be pursuing that.
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So, when these assets do come up for bidding, how are you looking to fund
these acquisitions?
And what would be your aspirations, for how the debt could be as
a percentage of the AUM?
So, I think it's a long-term strategy.
So, we would like to keep our debt leverage basically
And this year, we are looking for fundraise to fund these three assets.
it will be a combination of a debt plus equity.
But next year, when we are looking at an
asset, it can be a possibility that we do only through 100% debt acquisition, because
we have the probability to go to 70%, which is what regulation allows us.
So, we can take our debt to around 60%.
And that headroom will allow us to buy the
assets without any further fundraise.
But this is now a discussion point.
may change, but FY27, that is our thought process at this point of time.
Thank you so much for taking my questions.
Moderator
The next question is from the line of Anupam Jain, an individual investor.
Please go ahead.
Anupam Jain
Good afternoon, everyone.
So, firstly, I would like to thank you for giving me this
I have two set of questions.
First one is, so as you mentioned that we are
planning to add three assets during FY26.
So, could you please share the expected
IRR for these acquisitions?
Manish Satnaliwala
Thanks, Anupam.
So, these will be market linked driven.
But I can give you a ballpark
number, it will be something between 11% to 11.5%.
Anupam Jain
So, the second question is, how do you intend to finance these acquisitions?
they be funded by entirely through debt or internal accruals?
Manish Satnaliwala
So, Anupam, we don't have a headroom for the debt piece of it.
I think so just nidhi
So, we will be doing a fundraise.
It will be a PREP plus QIP kind of a
So, it will be partly funded by the equity and the debt will be refinanced after
Anupam Jain
Thank you so much for taking my questions.
Moderator
The next question is from the line of Gautam, an individual investor.
Just want to understand how the equity fundraise size would be like and what is
the DPU dilution expected, if possible?
Manish Satnaliwala
Thanks, Gautam.
So the fundraise will be something around say Rs. 900 crores that
we are anticipating and there will be some partly that sponsor will take units also.
will be a combination of units plus the sponsor units plus a Rs. 900 crores fundraise.
And DPU will be value-accretive in any case for the existing investors.
So, there will be
an incremental value addition.
So, the DPU will be value-accretive on that part of it.
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Moderator
The next question is from the line of Jayesh Gandhi from Baroda BNP
Paribas Asset Management.
Please go ahead.
Jayesh Gandhi
The question I have is that on this, on the existing book assets that you own,
what is the payout or dividend per unit that you can sustain for next few years?
Manish Satnaliwala
So, HAM asset has a very predictable and stable cash flows.
So, we are hoping that
the kind of DPU that we are maintaining now, it should be able to survive for three to
four years at least.
Jayesh Gandhi
And your object is to add new assets so that you can sustain that for a longer
period of time.
Is that what you are looking at?
Manish Satnaliwala
So, we are looking at a double-digit kind of a return, for the longest period of time.
And if we keep on adding HAM assets.
So, you can expect a double-digit return for a
longer period of time.
Jayesh Gandhi
So, every year you would be looking, because I am seeing a presentation, you are
talking about asset growth up to 11,000 crores.
So, every year you would be adding
two assets or two, three assets?
Manish Satnaliwala
So, as per our document that we have filed there are 17 ROFO assets from
So, that gives us a headroom for next four years of growth.
We are not even
counting the third-party assets which are yet to be acquired.
So, I think that the next
four years growth is already captured in our document.
And as we get the opportunity
to add third-party assets, that will be an incremental part of it.
Jayesh Gandhi
I understand that.
I guess what I was trying to get is how do you bring that equity for
these new assets?
Because while you may have equity for next one year, but how do
you add those assets in the subsequent years?
Manish Satnaliwala
So, to answer this question, we are looking at adding equity this year of Rs. 900
The next acquisition which will happen next year, we may fund it through debt,
because we get the headroom of 70%.
So, we will take the debt to around 60% and we
can do the acquisition next year through the debt part of it.
Then again, the third year we can come with an equity part of it.
By that time, we have
demonstrated in the market with our quarterly guidance and everything.
should not be a challenge in terms of raising for the market.
Jayesh Gandhi
No, no, I understand.
So, basically you would be doing equity raise once every two
years or something like that.
Manish Satnaliwala
Typically, it looks like as of now.
But in case we get some better asset next year and
the investors are ready for that; we can do it next year also.
So, it's a very dynamic
You understand.
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Jayesh Gandhi
Thanks for the feedback and all the very best.
Moderator
The next question is from the line of Gautam, an individual investor.
Just a small clarification I wanted.
If this Rs. 900 crores equity fundraise will
happen, and the remaining out of the Rs. 2,500 crores of assets to be acquired, how
will the remaining part be funded, especially as there is no debt headroom left?
Manish Satnaliwala
So, Gautam, there are three parts to the
Rs. 2,500 crores.
For example, we take a
number of Rs. 2,500 crores.
One is the debt refinancing piece, which will be a part of it.
Which we will be resizing the debt to come below 49%, say 45% to 46%.
The balance part which is left is fundraise and sponsor which is taking the units.
that portion will include both the things.
It can be 50-50, it can be around 60-40, but Rs.
900 crores will be around the fundraise, and the balance portion will be a sponsor taking
the unit against the equity that he is selling for the asset.
Moderator
The next question is on the line of Anupam Jain, an individual investor.
Please go ahead.
Anupam Jain
Thank you for the opportunity again, sir.
So, when are you planning to add the BOT
Manish Satnaliwala
So, that's a part of a long-term strategy.
But, you know, it will take around a couple of
years down the line to add the BOT toll assets.
Anupam Jain
Also, can you please give guidance for the next year DPU?
Manish Satnaliwala
So, we can give you next year in the April, to be honest with you, once the Board
Moderator
The next question is from the line of Parthipan, an individual investor.
Please go ahead.
Thank you for taking my question.
I'd like to ask, with the current strategy of initial equity
followed by debt and equity, will you be able to sustain this kind of distribution for the
upcoming, let's say, 10 years or will it be a DPU accretive?
That's my question.
Manish Satnaliwala
Sorry, I could not hear your question.
Can you repeat it, please?
Sir, with this kind of strategy of equity raised, that is equity dilution followed by debt
acquisition, will you be able to sustain the DPU for, let's say, 5 to 7 years or will it be
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It will be a DPU accretive, Okay.
I can't comment on 5 to 7 years, but definitely it will be
DPU activity and value accretive to the unit holders.
At least, will it be maintained, the DPU with equity dilution?
So, your good name, sorry?
So, we hope that it will be maintained but I can’t give you a guidance next
year of what it will be.
But overall, if I look at it, our objective is to maintain or increase
Moderator
The next question is from the line of Gautam, an individual investor.
I just want to clarify one doubt regarding the to be acquired assets.
Hasanpur highway is under construction.
Has the PCOD happened?
In the last update,
it was under construction, I had noted.
Is the PCOD over?
And if so, what is the
I mean, is it 80% within the threshold, the overall AUM threshold?
Manish Satnaliwala
So, Gautam, actually, there are two packages of Hasan-Bakhtiyarpur.
The package that
you are referring to is a part of nine assets for which we have already applied for the
completion certificate that had achieved the PCOD and was meeting the InvIT
regulation guidelines of completed revenue generating assets, because we have
already received the PCOD.
The three assets that we are acquiring now, that includes one more package of Hasan-
Bakhtiyarpur, and that also has got the PCOD, and it meets the InvIT guidelines of
completed revenue generating assets.
Sir, is it like two distributions have happened, then it is so, or even if the starting of
distribution will be…
No, so the law says that one year of operation.
It doesn't specify two distributions or two
So, we have to look from the day that we have got the PCOD, one year and
we can put it in the InvIT.
And what is that 20% under construction, is it on the bid cost, is it on the
AUM, how is it?
Under construction assets can be held in the books of the InvIT
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Yes, so for a public InvIT, Gautam, it is actually 80-20, but in 20%, also 10% can be
under construction, and 10% can be in the liquid funds.
So, it is 90-10, from that
So, 10% of our AUM can be under construction assets.
Moderator
Ladies and gentlemen, as there are no further questions from the
participants, I now hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.
Manish Satnaliwala
Thank you, everybody for the questions.
Capital Infra Trust has had a strong start since
We are well positioned for sustainable growth, backed by a robust portfolio,
a strong sponsor, rooted financial management, and a clear vision.
We are committed to delivering consistent and superior yields to our shareholders,
building long-term value, and contributing significantly to India's infrastructure
Thank you all once again for joining the call and sparing your time and
thank you very much.
Moderator
On behalf of ICICI Securities, that concludes this conference.
joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.